problem with embroidery

[twiglet]

hi there,
i hope you can help me, i have bernina 580, i tried to embroider but, it makes a big mass in the bobbin.
i tried to change the needle, clean the lint every so often.
can any body helps please.
thanks

[Zarah]

Hi Becky. Good to see you again.
When there are problems in the bobbin it's very often an issue with the top thread. Check if the thread has come out of the thread lever (the one that holds the upper thread and goes up and down). That's what often happens on my 830.
So retread and be sure the tension disks are engaged also.
Hope this helps.

[Zarah]

thanks norma,
i will try it!
cheers
b

[bunny9]

Becky
Try slowing down the speed at which you embroider also. This might help too. When I get thread tangles like Norma does, I often find that I haven't seeded the bobbin thread properly.

Norma,
I used to have the same challenge with my 830 not taking up the top thread but now keep the front plate off all the time so I know if it has engaged or not. * The lever will not pick up the thread if the bobbin is not threaded first.* Knowing this has saved me much anguish.

[bunny9]

thank you!
i did it (slow the speed) and it didnt help.
i read some where that if you put the thread in the freezer, sound little hipi but it works (as slowing the speed) - not a lot.
i dont know how to reduce the pressure on the top on 580, i will look for it.
i checked that i did thread the bobbin on the right way.

may be it is the thread that i use (the price too good to be true after all....bought it from amazon.com)

ok guys, thanks, if you have any other idea let me know.
cheers
b

[bunny9]

Becky
Good thread is key. I love Superior, especially if I am using metallics. If you have not done so go on the Superior website & watch Dr. Bob's video on threads & needles.

[bunny9]

yes i saw it.
but i cant efford the superior thread (250 colors!)
but what i have now it is nice to put on the wall....and see but not use

[Zarah]

Becky
Try slowing down the speed at which you embroider also. This might help too. When I get thread tangles like Norma does, I often find that I haven't seeded the bobbin thread properly.

Norma,
I used to have the same challenge with my 830 not taking up the top thread but now keep the front plate off all the time so I know if it has engaged or not. * The lever will not pick up the thread if the bobbin is not threaded first.* Knowing this has saved me much anguish.

Good suggestion, but it rarely happens when I embroider. It happens all the time if I try to use any kind of elongated stitches. I told my tech so when the machine goes in in Jan., I hope he can do something about it. You are right you really have to follow the procedure on threading to get good results.
Becky, the thread I use for embroidery is Madeira Rayon. Everything else sewn in this house is made from Superior threads. There's no lint in the bobbin when using it and that's a very good thing when you have a lady like the 830. She is very insistent on have her bobbin area clean :lol: . I buy my thread at Barnyarns in UK. It's way too expensive to get it from Superior when you are in Europe.

[Zarah]

honestly, i bought some threads with superior from the states it wasnt too expensive!
i was in a mood to spoil my self and bought 200 threads...for 200 american dollars this price you can not compare to a decent manufacturer, but ...it is an expansive lesson, some of the threads are ok, some not.
i learned my lesson, better less colors, but good quality....
marry christmas and happy new year every body!!!

[suehenyon]

Becky, make sure you are threading with the presser foot UP so the thread gets in the tension disk. When is the mess happening, at the beginning of stitching, or in the middle?

I, too, have a lot of inexpensive thread, purchased when I first bought my embroidery machine. Now, I use it for free-standing lace designs, but have to watch for thread breaks. When the thread breaks happen, I just back up a bit and continue on.

Where do you live?

Isacord can be found "relatively" inexpensively sometimes online. I built my stash a few at a time and have not had any problem with this line except for the black, which appears thinner that the rest and unravels.

[suehenyon]

it happend in the middle, and all the mess happend when i tried to do free standing lace.

i live in the netherlands

yes, i heard about isacord, i think i will try them soon.

thanks for every one for the advice, seems i need to try to see all kind of troubleshooting in this situation.

cheers

[bunny9]

Isacord is great thread too. Like Susan says, I have built my thread collection a few spools at a time & now I have hundreds from which to choose.

You really have to learn what your particular machine likes best & the proper tensions (top & bottom) for each kind of thread when you are embroidering or sewing. Try starting a thread bible to record your findings-you will not regret it!

[bunny9]

thank you all, i tried yesterday and it happend again....s**t!
but i realized some thing wired that on the same point on the embroidery all the problem happened.
i reduce the tension, do followed all the suggestions that you suggested.
today i will do last effort by putting the thread in the freezer, just before the place that it start making problems.
i will let you know guys,
thanks again for all the suggestions!!!
cheers

[suehenyon]

Does it happen in other designs? It could be just a poorly digitized design with a certain spot of too much thread build-up.

If you want to send me the design, I'd be glad to try it on my machine & see what happens & then "destroy" the file afterwards :roll:

[Renata]

Becky, I'm not a fan of putting thread in the freezer only because I'd be worried about moisture from the thread getting into the inner workings of my machine and creating other problems. However, I have known people to have problems similar to yours in the winter when the air in the house is drier because of having to heat the house. Putting a small humidifier in your sewing room, if your place is too dry, may be the solution you are looking for. My sister was having problems with her machine (she has a wood burning stove in her living area and the dry heat was circulating up to her open-space studio) but when she put a humidifier up there, she had no more problems with her machine. She only experiences problems in the winter.

I also found this URL that supports this idea: http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/elproje...oductid=pr1702 and paragraph five supports the idea of using a humidifier in the winter. This article also offers other good advice for problems with embroidery so I thought you might like to see it.

Wishing you a quick resolution to your problem!